Flag Mystery Solved

Thanks to a local internet trunk being out of service, this blog is posted late. Is being dependent on modern technology wonderful? A second proof arrived for Oklahoma’s Carlisle Indian School Immortals and it will be accepted. That means books will be printed soon. This brings us to the next book in the series, Wisconsin’s Carlisle Indian School Immortals.

Relatives of Chauncey Archiquette contacted me after seeing the message about the pristine 1897 Carlisle-Cincinnati game program. Chauncey wasn’t included in Doctors, Lawyers, Indian Chiefs because I had little information on him at the time and because, at 160,000 words, the book was running long. Now that I am doing a book on Wisconsin stars, of which there were many, there should be room for him and some others such as Wilson Charles and Wallace Denny.

Here is an update on the flag in the band photo that was discussed in the previous message. Richard Tritt, photocurator at Cumberland County Historical Society, researched the photo and found the following:

I found the photo in our collection, but only in school publications and in postcards. It appears as a large full page photo in the CARLISLE ARROW, July 27, 1906. There is no story. It appears again with a story about the band being at an event in the CARLISLE ARROW of Jan. 31, 1908. The same photo was used on a postcard that was issued prior to Feb. 28, 1907. It is printed on an undivided back postcard, thus the date. After that date postcards were divided on the back. Even with the best of the four copies that I have, the stars on the flag can’t be counted. The top row of the stars is hidden by the leaves in the tree. We do know that it had to have been taken before July 27, 1906. The 1908 written on the copy that she had is probably because her copy was taken from the 1908 issue of the ARROW.

So, the flag wouldn’t have been a 1908 flag because the photo was taken prior to July 27, 1906. George Gardner’s great grandson is right. This is surely not a 1908 flag.

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3 Responses to “Flag Mystery Solved”

  1. harry l oakman Says:

    in the early to mid 50s i worked in a theater and my bosses name was “DOC ” ELLIOT who was a team member of jim thorpe’s at carlyle indian school { supposedly ] – after seeing jim thorpe — all american , for the umpteenth time, i’ve become curious after all these years ! is there any one around here that can give me any info about “DOC ” he was a manager for W.B. OHIO THEATER in lima ,ohio

    • tombenjey Says:

      This is a difficult question, Harry. Steckbeck’s book lists no players by the name of Elliot, but it isn’t complete. The National Archives Carlisle Indian School Student File index includes no students named Elliot, but many files have been lost over the years. Indian census list people named Elliott but none named Doc. This isn’t surprising because that is probably a nickname. Do you know what his proper first name was? It is possible that he went by an Indian name earlier in his life as some did.

      I’m sorry for not being of much help.

      Tom

  2. harry l oakman Says:

    tom – thanks for replying to my question – i’m sure it was a nickname – but after 55yrs, i can’t even imagine what it might have been , although the name ‘wallace’ came to me a few seconds ago – i thought if i had a few names to look at , i might recognize it – he might have been a classmate & not a teammate – thanks again — harry

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